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Herpwannabe's question for Chris Harper.
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by keyz on February 9, 2006
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Hi I have just read about a device that can apparently change the molecular makup of venom, so when bitten it seems you electricute the site several times and thats it! wow, I am not taking the mickey out of herpwannabe as this was told to him by a third party its posted on the Mark o Shea Q's+A's also it sounds like a stun gun by the way its described please have a look and post your thoughts Dr B.Fry or Dr Shaun Busch may be very interested in this device???!!!! cant help but giggling slightly at the thought of someone actually field testing this "stun gun" thingy yow ("thats gotta hurt")Steve Irwin
cheers peeps Keyz.
Oce again no offence intended Eugino.
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RE: Herpwannabe's question for Chris Harper.
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by Chris_Harper on February 9, 2006
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Hate to say this, but if you just read about it, you're about 15 years too late. Based on the anecdote about the farmer who was stung by a swarm of bees and reported that falling on to an electric fence immediately caused cessation of symptoms, various 3rd world physicians started using jumper cables off of cars and other devices to "shock" their snakebite patients. The initial concept was that since the human body has a slightly negative charge, and venom is positively charged, that somehow the electricity was changing the polarity of the venom, thereby disabling it molecularly from attaching itself to human tissue. THAT WAS THE THOUGHT ANYWAY. Did it really work? Not even a little. Every experiment that could be done was done, and it simply doesn't have the intended effect. The case has been closed.
Many people and even physicians who have used it, and had their snakebite patients survive have fallen victim to the "false positive deception". They would have been just as successful if they had put a pebble under their tongue, or sacrificed a chicken at midnight. Supportive care alone, (IV Fluids, pain meds, oxygen, airway control,etc) will improve the survival rate of snakebite patients. Prior to antivenom, the mortality rate of Eastern diamondback patients was only 25%. With supportive care, not including antivenom, it's probably less than 5%.
But don't think for a second that I'm telling you to sit at home and ride out a snakebite. That would be foolish. Antivenom is the only real cure, and besides that, early antivenom is proven to reduce the amount of permanent damage that snake venom does. So if you are bitten, get to antivenom pronto.
~Chris Harper
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by keyz on February 10, 2006
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Theres a surprise, spongebob knows how it works!!!!!! it seems that he has bee trying to learn something and took me up on the offer of using the money to send me to Australia, and done what I said GOT SOME ELECTRIC SHOCK THERAPY, Anyway thats about oit boy ive had enough of you, think ill just suggest you being blocked and see what the SHHS think ttfn,
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