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by nasicornis1 on September 30, 2006
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it is getting that time of year again. So I need to be prepared. What is the best way to cycle northern copperheads. I have on ly bred colubrids and my coppers are up and ready so I figured it is time.
mike
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by ALA_snake33 on September 30, 2006
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Mike: I use the same method I used on my Corn Snakes & Rat Snakes to Cool Down my Copperheads and Cottonmouths, only deference is, opening the lids of your Hibernation Boxes, is just a little more Hairy. Copperheads seem to do just fine at a Temp of about 60 Degrees (F), and I normally keep them at this Temp for 3 Full Months. One little note tho. If you plane to use Plastic Shoe Boxes, I would Tape the Lids on Tight. This will keep down the possibility of one getting loose. As for my personal preference, I like to use an Old Refrigerator, as a kind of Cooling Box, only thing is, you better Drill some Small Holes in the Sides of it for Air.
So in short, do them the same way you do your Rat Snakes and Corn Snakes. I wish you all the luck in the world and I also wish you Happy and Healthy Babies.
Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by nasicornis1 on October 1, 2006
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Thanks Wally.
What time of year do you usually put yours down? I put my rat snakes down at the first of december. And these are wild caught adults. would photo period play into this at all, or could I just put them in the closet like i do my rats?
one other question... do you know how to get stubborn broadbanded copperheads to feed. I have a trio that were supposed to be captive born yearlings, but.... only one is feeding on f/t I am waiting on some live mice to drop but i don't think my male mouse is doing his job. any ideas before the mice are born?
Mike
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by ALA_snake33 on October 1, 2006
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Mike: I normally Put my Rats, Corns, Copperheads, & Cottonmouth down by the First of December also and take them out around the First of March. Now I don’t know if you do this or not, but I take my Females out First, this gives them a chance to Build Up Fat Supplies for the hard time to come before Breeding. As for regulating the amount Light they are exposed to each day, I don’t even bother. Both A. contortrix & A. piscivorous do not seem to have to have this Light Regulation, to promote Breeding.
To answer your other question, I would attempt using Small Fence Lizards to Scent my Mice. Lizards seem to make up a large part of Baby Copperheads Diets and if you use their Scent, it could get you one heck of a Feeding Response.
Mike: I wish you the best of luck and hope your Babies do well.
Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by SwampY on October 1, 2006
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I was just going to add that 60 sounds a little warm to me. I just seal off all the vents in my snake room, cover the cages and crack a window. I'll shut it if it gets below freezing but mine get nightly dips into the 40's with no seeming ill effect. Heck, my biggest concern is keeping them cold enough. We have some mighty warm winter days in Georgia.
Chad
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by ALA_snake33 on October 1, 2006
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Chad: One Year, I Kept 2 Males and 4 Females at a Temp of 50 Degrees for the Hole 3 Months. All of these Copperheads were very Healthy and Fully Parasite Free, but all were Dead by the end of the last Month. So you see, now I do let Caution play a big part in my Cooling Times. Now I do let the Temp drop to 55 on occasion, but this is only on Really Cold Nights. I guess every Keeper has their own preference in How Long, What Temperature, and which Sex to Wake Up First. I don’t know how many deferent ways of doing this one thing I have heard, shoot, I couldn’t count them on 2 hands.
Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by shawnfraser on October 2, 2006
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Mike,
The broadbanded copperheads at Reptile World bred two years ago. It was kind of a surprise as we were not trying to reproduce them. The babies wouldn't take pinkies, but I scented them with leopard frogs (Rana pipiens) and that worked like a charm. After a couple of feedings they ate unscented pinkies with no problems.
Shawn
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