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temp trigger for brumation in wild
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by crotalus17 on October 6, 2006
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Anyone have an idea of what temps triggers timbers to brumate? I search around NW Virginia for every type of snake I can find, and would like to better understand when I am wasting my time. If it is mid-November and the average temp for a couple of weeks has been around 50F and then one 80F day, any chance of spotting a timber emerging? Does the average temp have to stay warm for a couple of days/week to stir any activity? Will only the prolonged warmth of spring trigger emerging/basking? I am interested in the times of year (outside the obvious warmer months) people have spotted rattlers and the temp/conditions a few days/weeks prior to the encounter.
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RE: temp trigger for brumation in wild
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by SwampY on October 6, 2006
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Snakes are around all year. I find them in January and February regularly. Found a corn last year on Jan 3rd with a mouse in its belly.
But I don't live in the frozen arctic north (i.e. pretty much anything above Atlanta)
Chad
http://www.envenomated.com
PS yes, I know this reply didn't answer your question. It was designed purely to make you jealous :-)
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by Atrox788 on October 6, 2006
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Timbers are recorded basking at the entrance to den sites durning every month of the year. Id say early sep on tehy are on the way back to over wintering sites as a general rule.
The key to finding Timbers is knowing a den location, especialy at this time of year. On a nice warm day in the winter you have a good chance of seeing one basking on the rocks surrounding the den.
BTW, NW VA isnt exactly Timber heaven. Sure there are alot in our Mountains but the NW of the state (thinking Lesburg area etc)is pretty populated nowadays. You may have better luck finding them further south along the apalation (spelling?).
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by thedude on October 6, 2006
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Pretty much any bright sunny day >60F on a south facing talus/rock slope (den site) in the fall/winter should produce a few timbers. Not sure what part of NW VA you are looking at but unless you are solidly in the mountains I don't think you would have any luck. There is however a small apparently isolated population near manassas (Bull Run Mountains Conservency, http://www.fobr.org/natural_resources.html There is however NO COLLECTING as well as some other pretty stict rules, but as it is a very nice area so close to DC it needs them!)you might want to check out.
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by crotalus17 on October 6, 2006
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Yeah, looks like I found a den site in Shenandoah. I've found 3 timbers there the last two times I visited the spot. I saw 5 copperheads at another spot there last year. Most the time I spot one by themself perched on top of a large rock. And I do not collect. I love to see them and take photographs. I am also really interested in non-venomous snakes that I haven't caught (Eastern King, Pine, Corn, rough green, and a couple of the very small snakes excluding the ringneck). Again, not for collecting. So any info on where someone found any of these is greatly appreciated.
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