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Venomoids Questions?
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by Bobby123 on May 29, 2008
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WE dont have venomoids or vets willing to do the procedure in SA. I dont agree with it at all but maybe its because i dont understand why its done. So i have a few questions. (I have noticed how fed up people get about this topic,but i dont know much about them so bare with me)
1. Is the procedure legal?
2. Does it affect lifespan and feeding?
3. Can the animals be free handled without worry about an invenomation?
4. How and what apart from the venom glands. What do they remove?
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by Rob_Carmichael on May 29, 2008
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Realizing that this topic invokes a very heated philosophical debate, lets just answer the questions:
1. Is the procedure legal?
Yes, but that depends on whether or not the area you live in allows the keeping of venomous species. A venomoid can still reproduce and produce fully hot offspring so they are always treated as if they were fully armed and loaded. If you asked the question "Is it right" you would probably have set a lot of people off so we won't go there.
2. Does it affect lifespan and feeding?
Our facility keeps venomoids that came to us from confiscations. From my experience, I have noticed no difference in lifespan or feeding - in fact, some of our most voracious feeders are venomoids. If you had asked "Does it affect the quality of life for the animal" once again, you would have received a much different response (if done by a qualified/licensed vet under proper anasthesia, the pain is probably minimal)....its easy to anthropomorphize these things. My interactions with venomoids have shown that they appear as alert and inquisitive as their fully hot counterparts. BUT, I will also say that some of these animals that came to us were in such horrid condition when they first came in that it was unbelievable what these animals endured...garage, hatchet style procedures.
3. Can the animals be free handled without worry about an invenomation?
Can it be free handled? Now you've asked a question that will elicit some strong responses. If this is the reason you are getting a venomoid, DON'T. That's the beef I have with these types of animals - folks want to show off their handling skills with something that can't kill them. They're phonies, dispictable people who are only in it for their own ego edification. At our facility, we treat the few venomoids we have with as much respect as those that are fully hot - that's the only way it should be done.
4. How and what apart from the venom glands. What do they remove?
Depends on whether it is a full gland and duct removal, or, gland removal. Once procedure is more invasive than that other. Both require anasthesia and should only be done by a licensed veterinarian - but I'm not going to say its right.
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by Bobby123 on May 29, 2008
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I realize its a touchy topic but like I say in south Afr its unheard of as far as I know. Its good to know that the animals can still function properly without their guns. Are there not laws in the US that ban the procedure.
I mentioned the handling because i see no other reason apart from being able to handle them saftly.
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by tj on May 29, 2008
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"1. Is the procedure legal?
Yes, but that depends on whether or not the area you live in allows the keeping of venomous species. A venomoid can still reproduce and produce fully hot offspring so they are always treated as if they were fully armed and loaded. If you asked the question "Is it right" you would probably have set a lot of people off so we won't go there."
Kinda true, Rob. The surgery is legal IF performed by a licensed vet.
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by Bobby123 on May 29, 2008
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Well before i get death threats LOL Il leave it at that. just to end off I not looking for arguments only helpfull info.
Thanks again and I take my hat off to Rob for taking in those abused animals.
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