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Mussurana (Clelia clelia)
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by 23bms on November 19, 2005
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Nofangfan's mention of this snake in his post on his B. asper problem was the first I have heard in years. I obtained a wc adult in the late '60s and maintained it for quite a few years. I bought rat snakes, got them to snarf down all the mice they could hold, and then fed the ratsnakes to the Mussurana. It thrived on the diet. Alas, I could never wean it off snakes. Heaven knows I tried. It wouldn't even take pre-killed "stuffed" snakes. Live, or forget it.
I can't remember the last time I saw one or heard of one for sale. Has anyone out there had any experience with the species? If so, have you had any luck getting them to eat anything other than snakes?
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RE: Mussurana (Clelia clelia)
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by MattHarris on November 19, 2005
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Not really...Clelia clelia at least. There are some folks working with S.A. mussuranas but they were reclassified and I can't remember what they are now.
I've inquired with folks in Costa Rica about getting them, but the snakes tend to not do well enough in captivity to breed, so they are often turned loose rather than force fed, etc.
The only one the folks I know, that has done well is Clelia scytalina...the highland form, and unlike Clelia clelia, it is a nasty bugger.
I've only seen one C. clelia in the wild...I bright crimson juvenile caught in Corcovado National Park. I've been trying for several years to get them now.
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RE: Mussurana (Clelia clelia)
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by 23bms on November 20, 2005
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Too bad... As I noted, mine did quite well. At feeding time it was an veritable garbage can - provided the garbage was scaled, legless, and alive. Incidentally, I also tried lizards. It wouldn't look at them. It was between 5 and 6 feet and, unlike a lot of wc adults of any species, virtually flawless. It wasn't at all shy, never tried to bite, and made a great display and lecture specimen. Most people, on initially seeing it, mistook it for a very dark Indigo.
jrb
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RE: Mussurana (Clelia clelia)
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by Chance on November 20, 2005
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I'm not sure the species I'm referring to is Clelia clelia, or formerly thereof, but it seems there are a few people here in the US both keeping and successfully breeding mussuranas. Go to the indigo forum on Kingsnake and you'll find them. That place is a haven for folks who like the weird colubs: Drymarchon, Spilotes, Clelia, etc. Also, keep an eye on the classifieds in the "other snakes" category, as I've seen them in there. They're costly though. Oh, and it seems that people keeping them don't have problems getting them to take rodents.
-Chance
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