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Bull Rattler or Bullony
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by buzzard on December 1, 2005
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I need to know if there is documented proof of a crotalus/pitcat cross....pictures, what to look for etc.
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by pitbulllady on December 1, 2005
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No, it is genetically impossible for a crotalid to produce offspring with a....What's a "pitcat"? Rattlesnakes are live-bearers, while Pituophis lay eggs. They have evolved along quite different lines, and are not even closely related, genetically. The notion of so-called "bull rattlers" or "brattlers" is, as you suggested, "Bullony"-a popular myth, like that of the "hoop snake" and Coachwhips beating people to death with their tails, that refuses to go away.
pitbulllady
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by Phobos on December 1, 2005
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Barry:
You do ask some unusual questions...
Thanks for the message from Paris ;-)
Al
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by buzzard on December 1, 2005
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Thanks, and sorry for my distorted abbreviations bullady.....I,m gonna get that xvenomx
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by pitbulllady on December 2, 2005
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Actually, this was a heated discussion a couple of years ago on a forum on another site. A poster put up a pic of a baby Bullsnake, insisting that she had been told by someone from Montana's Wildlife Dept. that it was a hybrid between a Prairie rattler and a Bullsnake, and that such crosses were common, and very dangerous because you never knew how bad their venom would be! She got VERY upset and angry when challenged by snake-keeping people on the site, and all sorts of oddities came out of the wooodwork insisting that "it could happen", even though they couldn't produce anything scientific information to back up that claim.
pitbulllady
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by buzzard on December 2, 2005
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I heard about a man that had a bullsnake living in his garden, he was content to let it be, until one day it lashed out and bit him and he became nauseus and there was some swelling, thus a snake that must have crossed with a rattler!I had already decided the symptoms were probably mostly psycosematic, and at most maybe a little septic infection. Well I usually don't argue with friends, so I let them think the worst, and naturally the snake was promptly dispatched
I have had really docile bulls and some that were really menacing that would shake their tail, coil up and strike and bite,, and were never able to socialize and often mistaken by the average horrified person to be a rattler, so maybe this behavior also sustains the existence of the fearsome "BULL-RATTLER"
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