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by CobraKing on November 7, 2002
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I know this is a commonly answered question. I have decided to get a c.b. southern copperhead. I have done at least a year of research into captive care of the species, and have about 6 year experience catching them. But I have heard that vipers and pit-vipers have different "attitudes" than elapids. Some people have said that you almost have to start all over again when you aquire an elapid. I was just wondering, is there any elapid for "beginners" that is comparable to a copperhead? Thanks for any answers!
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Kinda, sorta, no........
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by jared on November 7, 2002
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Beginner elapids at least here in the states are tricky. Copperheads compared to russells vipers are quite different as mambas compared to monocles are. I dont believe a monocle makes a good starter elapid, they are flighty as hell, and then fling around and take a swing at ya. Now coral cobras are something you may consider, but lets just say they dont have half the disposition of an adult forest or cape cobra. My first elapid was a banded egypt, but she was almost dog tame while I have heard horror stories about male bandeds chasing you around the room. I guess it would depend on the INDIVIDUAL ANIMALS DISPOSITION> Say you can have a clutch of cobras, one male may be a firecracker right off the bat and have a brother who is a complete "boa". I would suggest you probably keep several hots before moving into Naja,Dendroaspis,Oxyuranus etc etc. As even native pitvipers vary greatly in disposition, Catching a copper on the road is alot different from trying to get an agitated caney off the road. Overall, be careful. Elapids tend to be a little flighty, and some like to lung from hooks. I have kept a decent variety of cobras and I really couldn't say which one would be best to start with, THEY ARE ALL VERY HOT compared to coppers. I would suggest maybe a coral to get your feet wet and move from there. I hope i provided some help (probably not) but if you have any other questions feel free to ask.
jared w
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RE: Kinda, sorta, no........
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by CobraKing on November 7, 2002
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Thanks! I'll definitely wait a few years before getting an elapid, I just wanted to know.
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Not trying to steer ya away......
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by jared on November 8, 2002
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from elapids, just saying you may wanna become more familiar with "lower toxicity" hots first then move up. Like I said, I am in NC, if you have any questions or are just interested in learning proper techniques (no punch lines here guys ;) gimme a call and maybe we can set up to have you view some of my snakes. Just a thought, I know what it was like when I was new on the forums. later,
jared w
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RE: Not trying to steer ya away......
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by bitisatrox on November 8, 2002
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ya ide like to get into elapids myself but im waiting too for now I practice with black racers as much as i can...
later,
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Something comparable
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by Chris_Harper on November 9, 2002
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Have you ever thought about getting a wild caught Spilotes pullatus as a trainer snake for elapids. Going from a copperhead to any "flighty" elapid is a big jump. Spilotes of course are not venomous, but they are extremely quick.
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