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by puffadder7 on May 14, 2008
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did any of you happen to catch that episode when bear was in namibia,when he killed that puff adder,i thought that was extremely unnecesary i know he was not that hungry he could of just said you can eat these in a life or death situation,anyway bear is very informitive but that pissed me off, arin
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by jared on May 14, 2008
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I have seen bear kill a prarie in montana and eat it as well as walking away from a midget faded in Utah (he new it was endangered) and walking upon an EDB in FL, which i believe he left as well. Its a survival show, and occassionally it can be brutal, ever seen tred bartas show? I he he hunted a boar w a buck knife (on camera, successfully), I saw him get a goose with a longbow. Hunting/Survival shows in general depict pretty explict material (and wildlife shows for the matter) but thats what they are. Nature is explict, and violent. Survival in that situation is as well. Hell, i think the scariest thing i have seen bear do (he REALLY did) is drink water from elephant dung when dropped in kenya, that made my jaw drop fastest than anything i have seen in some time. Basically, it is what it is, survival w/o modern resources is difficult to say the least, and i think his overall principle in that demonstration had less to do with killing the snake, as it did with using whatever you can for sustinance . Again, just my opinion
Jared
Btw one of the worst examples of hunting reptiles I ever saw, two guys in africa on safari, baiting the opposite shoreline about 5 ft up w carcasses, and they shot at least a half dozen large niles with 30 06s as they came outta the water. If was like fish in a barrel, horrible.
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by LarryDFishel on May 14, 2008
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Sorry, my point of view is, if it wasn't endangered and he ate it, I don't have a problem with it, and unless you're at least a vegetarian I don't see why you should either.
Just because we're into snakes doesn't make them different from any other animal. There are plenty of people who keep mice and pigs as pets. That doesn't mean I shouldn't feed mice to my snake or have bacon on my burger. But it does mean it would be hypoctitical of me to bash him for eating a snake.
Ever gone fishing? Did you HAVE to eat those fish?
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by BigBend66 on May 15, 2008
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I can't stand the bastard! he was in the ENP and caught a red bellied turtle, stabbed it in the head. now why would our Nat, park allosw him to do thaT..
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by SCatheris on May 15, 2008
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Well I'll be honest If I were lost in the ENP or namib desert I'd be doin the same thing!!!It's survival and it's not always pretty. If I'm stuck in the glades and a big turtle is the only thing I can safely catch and subdue for food then sorry I'll eat the turtle. Would I like having to do it? of course not but it's the turtle or me.....
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by LarryDFishel on May 15, 2008
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I've wondered about Collin's point for a while. During the shows, he is obviously not in a real survival situation and I've seen him and "the other guy", if I remember correctly, killing animals that as far as I know, are not endangered or protected specifically, but were apparently in a national park where it is usually illegal to even touch ANY animal. I've always wondered how that can be legal. Maybe they are able to secure some sort of permit for it? (Personally, I don't have a problem if that is the case, I'm just curious.)
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by tj on May 15, 2008
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As long as he eats it afterwards, I have no problems with it. It's a show that's meant to "help" people in survival situations, nothing more. If the PETA or API people aren't lobbying the show, why should anyone else?
What do you think soldiers eat when their rations are gone?
I know plenty of people, some in here, that have eatin' turtle, gator, snake, and they all have a fondness for said animals.
He's merely showing people what you can eat in survival more, albeit doing it in dramatic fashion.
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by Cro on May 15, 2008
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Survival Shows almost all are staged for TV production.
Bear Grylls sleeps in a Hotel while filming many of the shows.
Same as most of the survival folks. Then they drive back out to the filming area each morning.
It would be almost impossible to film a show under a real survival situation. It would take months to do that. They have to compress a weeks worth of survival into a 1 hour block of TV time.
Is it worth the cost of a few animals killed and eaten for the educational value ? Perhaps. Perhaps Not. Education does have certain value.
When Steve Irwin messed with rattlesnakes in the American Southwest, the lethargic nature of many of the snakes makes me sure they had been kept in a cooler, or drugged before the shots, although they will say that was not the case.
Simply Google "Fake Survival Shows" and you will turn up tons of information on this.
Try this one to start:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6911748.stm
They get by with it though, because of the disclaimer that says " all events, whether actual or created, depict authenticated facts" although you never see the disclaimer or the credits, due to commercials.......
Again, is it worth that, to get a great natural history shot ? Perhaps, if it serves to educate folks. Even a staged survival show is better than the mindless things like American Idle that folks watch.
Best Regards JohnZ
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