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by demonic_smurf_1 on May 18, 2006
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I have lived in South Carolina all of my life, and i have herped in my hometown (Spartanburg) most of my life.Now according to the National Audubon Societies
book on reptiles and amphibians of north america, the
Crotalus horridus is supposed to be all thru out my area and the upstate. I my self have never seen one and trust me i have looked,i had a friend whos grand mother killed one last summer. And called me there after (lot of good that did me ) that was in blacksburg sc. so i herped there and again nothing.I'm
twentyeight yrs old and have never seen a Crotalus horridus in it's natural habait,i have a bio on here and i am a active member of shhs and have met some really awsome people on here and have made some good friends.
so any advice one could give me on where to look would be GREATLY appericated thanks to every one who took the time to read my little thread.
Best Regards
Jay
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by bush_viper17 on May 18, 2006
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The only advice is to keep looking. I was sure that the timber rattler didnt live anywhere near my area, because I looked and looked and never found any sign of one. Then I found a spot with a good population. You will find them one day.
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by Buzztail1 on May 18, 2006
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Jay,
There are definitely C. horridus in SC.
Keep trying and you will surely find one - also true.
I used to hunt a particular area in VA for kingsnakes. I went there dozens of times and never missed finding at least two kings. It was great. An overgrown homestead with tin laying about. Anyway, one day in '76, I was there for my kingsnake fix and almost stumbled on a beautiful four foot long horridus sunning itself on the top of a long sheet of tin. I circled around and on the other end of the tin was a two and a half foot long (later found to be gravid) Southern Copperhead. I caught and kept both. I never found another kingsnake there even though I hadn't collected the ones I found in the first place. Oh well.
My point is, that if you are going out and looking in the right kind of places, you will eventually find one. Some folks road cruise them. I have found some on the roads. Some folks flip them under tin. I have found them under tin. Still others have just walked up on them in the woods and I have found them that way too. Don't give up. They are worth seeing in the wild.
Karl
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by Chris_Harper on May 18, 2006
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Range maps are drawn to encompass the outer borders of the known occurrences of the animal, then the inner area is "colored in", but this is a poor reflection of the actual range. Last year at the Biology of the Rattlesnakes Symposium at Loma Linda, Marty Martin presented an actual attempt at the known range of C.horridus that was prepared with both his and John Sealy's data.
Imagine the range map of horridus with leopard spots and that is basically what it looked like. It was really disheartening to see the previous range vs the current known range.
I'd like to have an actual copy of that map, but then again, which one of us wouldn't?
CH
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by earthguy on May 19, 2006
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I am also a South Carolinian, and I see C. horridus at least once a year. They're often DOR, though. Try coming in a little southeast to the sandhills/coastal plain side of things. You'll find one. Of course I've spent the last 2 decades or so looking for M. fulvius, and haven't yet found one. I definitely live in their range, but haven't added one to my life list. I feel your pain.
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by demonic_smurf_1 on May 19, 2006
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I'm sending out a big whole hearted thank you to every one who responed to my thread.Thanks again for the advice......
Best Regards
Jay
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