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by SpikeyReptiles on September 26, 2006
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Hey every one im looking into getting some new venomous snakes..Im looking for some thing thats pretty easy to work with and hopefuly a bit docile..I keep east african puff adders,copperheads,great basin rattlers,dusky pygmy rattlers,and ive had eastern diamond backs...And now im looking to add some thing new...Im not really looking for najas but i wants yalls opinions on what you think is easy to work with?? any opinions would be a big help...
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Spikey
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by Cro on September 26, 2006
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Shayne, I am kind of like the Aspidilaps, which are commonly known as Coral Cobras, or Shield-Nosed Cobras.
When I worked at AZP years ago, I had several in my section, and they were fun to work with. They are nicely marked snakes, and they do not get too big.
The disadvantage with them is they like to hide a lot, although some cage setups might keep them in view better.
The other danger is that there is no bite treatment protocol or specific anti-venom for them, and the venom is basically cobra venom, and there are recorded deaths from their bites. So you would have to try to stay away from the sharp end.
But, they are fun little boogers to keep. Lots of personality.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by SimplySnakes on September 26, 2006
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Spikey,
The Eyelash vipers are gorgeous snakes and would be a good change of pace. The venom is not as toxic as your puffs, but more like the copperheads. They are calm natured and make excellent captives. Also they do not grow to large sizes. The plus is their coloration, yellows, green and reds, pinks, all are very attractive snakes for the terrarium.
Paul
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by Cro on September 26, 2006
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Like Paul said, Eyelash Vipers would be great also. Just make sure you purchase snakes that have some size to them and are established feeders.
New-born Eyelash`s can be a real challenge to feed.
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JohnZ
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by Rob_Carmichael on September 27, 2006
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"Spikey" mentions that he wants a venomous snake that is a "bit docile"? That already sounds like trouble to me. It looks like you have only worked with venomous herps for a couple of years and I don't know if I would keep the kind of hot stuff that you mentioned that's already in your collection. I'm assuming you have antivenin for the stuff you work with, or, have made arrangements with an institution to provide you with the proper a/v should you get bit (you have done that right?). I would just stick with what you have and continue to try to master good, safe management techniques. Once you finish school, get yourself a full time job/career, and, have your own place, that would be a good time to look at expanding. I see a long of young folks who get the "bug" and just keep buying more and more venomous herps; if you are tired with what you have now, you'll get tired of anything new. Just wanted to share a slightly different viewpoint to consider. I'm not sure how old you are but if you are a "student" who is in high school then you shouldn't keep any venomous, if you are a college student, you oughta hold off until you finish your degree. I better shut up because I'm preaching now.
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
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by Cro on September 27, 2006
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Actually, ``Preacher`` Rob, you bring up some very good points, LOL !
Best Regards JohnZ
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by SpikeyReptiles on September 27, 2006
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Rob when i said a "bit docile" i ment some thing along the lines of a puff adder and how they dont strike that often....And yes rob i am still in highschool but what does that have to do with me owning venomous? And just because im looking for a new animal doesnt mean im tired of my old ones....And yes i have antivenin kept at a local doctors office....And i already have a full time job....And im not looking to add a lot of animals im only looking to add 1....And im not gonna add some thing right away....
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by Cro on September 27, 2006
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Shayne, it is refreshing to hear of a young venomous keeper who has taken the trouble to secure a supply of anti-venom ( for the Puff, I hope ).
Working with your local doctor that way is a good plan.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Rob_Carmichael on September 27, 2006
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Spikey Boy, first, if you think that a puff adder is even mildly "docile" you have already proven why a high school kid shouldn't own a venomous reptiles. That is purely ridiculous. So you were able to acquire a BB-IND number? That's pretty impressive as many zoos are even having a hard time acquiring proper antivenin supplies; where are you getting your's from? Just curious as I may need to find a new supplier. Based on the animals that you listed, you are talking about thousands of dollars of needed antivenin....you must have one heck of a high school job. Seriously, though, you really do have no business keeping venomous. If you are in high school, that means you are living at home and putting family members at risk who may not share your passion for reptiles. If you are planning on going to college, who is going to take care of the animals? I know I'm preaching again but you opened yourself up a bit.
Cheers
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