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by southerncat on September 18, 2006
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We have had suggestions on explaining the meanings of abbrevations and such to attendees that come to our shows.
Here is where I need your help, I know most but I am in no way an expert so I need your help. Remember to try and make the meaning as simple as possible.
I will be making posters and handing out papers with these meanings on them.
Thank you for your help in advance!
Cathy
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by southerncat on September 18, 2006
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Anything that would help educate the new person that is interested in reptiles.
Here is what I know:
1.0 = 1 male
0.1 =1 female
0.0.1 = 1 unsexed
WC = wild caught
LTC = long term captive
Thanks again,
Cathy
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by Cro on September 18, 2006
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Cathy, can you give us an example of what kind of abbreviations you are talking about?
Things like the 2.1.7 to describe male / female / unsexed ratios are well established, and should be explained to people who do not know them.
However, by explaining abbreviations, we also incourage their use, and perhaps we should instead incourage the vendors to use the correct terms in the first place.
Just how hard is it to write out ``Eastern Diamond-Backed Rattlesnake`` on a index card by the animal, instead of writing ``EDB`` on a delli cup?
Most folks who use abbreviated terms do so out of lazyness, or because they do not know better. The fact that folks are asking you what the terms mean is showing that the public does not know them, only other herpers, and even that is not allways the case.
I once heard a young herper at a low country reptile show call a venomoid albino cobra that a speaker was working with on stage a ``moid,`` which is I guess short for ``venomoid.`` The person he was talking to had no idea what he ment by ``moid.`` If he had just used the right term in the first place, there would have not been a problem. This shows that the younger herpers are picking up sloppy terms being used by older lazy herpers, which is unfortunate, and we old farts should try to stop doing.
Requiring 100 vendors to label animals correctly would be way better than trying to educate 3000 visitors on what the abbreviations are.
You see these lazy folks on field herpers saying they found a king snake under ``AC``. What? They found it under a dumped Air Conditioning unit? Just what does ``AC`` mean anyway, I know they want it to mean artificial cover, but why not just say under a board or piece of tin. And is a log pile make by man AC, but a log pile made by a falling tree not AC ?
Folks are LAZY, that is why they use abbreviations in the first place. We should stop using them. We should not use terms like ``Coppers, Cottons, Clambusters, EDB, WDB, etc when we are dealing with situations where the non-reptile public is involved, and in online forums.
A bunch of HERPERS sitting around a campsite, or in a Zoo, can talk EDB`s all day long, and this is fine. But when the general public is involved, as in Reptile Shows and Web Sites, the more knowledgable folks should stop using the abbreviations and use the correct terms, if for nothing else, the sake of visiting folks who are trying to learn.
Anyway Cathy, sorry for the rant and rave. Give us an Idea of the abbreviations you are being asked about, and folks here will hopefully help you defign them. And hopefully, will try to discourage the vendors from using the ones that have no place.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by idioteque4444 on September 18, 2006
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Hey Cathy. Are you talking about what me and DJ did at the Aiken show? We had a framed print out showing what all abbreviations meant. I find ourselves answering those questions all the time about what each one means. If you like I can send you an email copy of what we have on ours.
SAL @ WNCHerps
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by snakeguy101 on September 18, 2006
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mr.zegel makes a good point but as he said, we are lazy and we find it hard to break the habbit once we start to use the terminology.
as for the abbreviations, i don't know many BUT:
CB is captive born.
het is short for heterozygous which means that the snake carries a ressive gean that may be desirable (i.e. a regular snake was breed with an albino snake and all of the babies come out as het for albino, this means that if you breed the babies, 2 of 4 will be het for albino and 1 of 4 will be albino) this goes back to 9th grade biology and is difficult for me to explain.
hot is jargin for venomous snakes ( i'm sure that you all know that)
and 1.3.2 was explained to me as a sex ratio that is in stock (only used in selling)
hope this helps,
chris hartmann
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by Cro on September 18, 2006
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Chris, the sex ratio thing is used in selling, but is also used by most Zoos, Reptile Parks, and Aquariums to label snake cages behind the scenes.
Say you have a cage with several snakes in it, you might label the cage as: 2/1 Timber Rattlesnakes.
Or 0/0/13 Eyelash Vipers.
I guess this works better than putting up a label that says ``3 snakes in cage,`` or ``13 baby snakes in cage.``
Experienced reptile people will know to look for 3 snakes when they see the 2/1 label, and 13 snakes when the see the other one.
The same nomenclature is used by most folks in the animal business, wether they are keeping or selling tropical fish, bobcats, crocodiles, or spiders.
I have no idea who invented it, but it does seem to work, and is very well established and has been in use for many, many years.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by snakeguy101 on September 21, 2006
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okay, i have never seen it used in anything other than selling, my mistake, thank you
chris hartmann
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