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by TAIPAN78 on April 18, 2001
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Hi all,
Has T.borneensis gone through a name change in recent years? Did they used to be in the genus Ovophis? I am picking one up here in the near future and have started doing my homework, especialy researching their venom but my reffernce(The Clinical Handbook to Toxicology) does not list T.borneensis. I was trynig to look it up at the EMBL Database but couldnt get through.
Thanks in advance everybody!
Later,
Jeremy
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by ChumLEY on April 18, 2001
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I believe they used to be lumped in w/ T. purpuromaculatus. I used to have a few and that's what I was told by Mike at Glades.
Hope this helps,
Chris
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by TAIPAN78 on April 20, 2001
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Thanks Chris! I never thought of them being that colsely related but now that you mention it, there are some similar charactistics.
I need to get off my duff and contact the Morgans. They will know.
Thanks again for the lead and I hope to see ya at Hamburg.
Later man,
Jeremy
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by jimi on April 20, 2001
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Hi. Borneensis was (and still is) confused with T.puniceus. Some minor differences in head scalation, and apparently range and elevational distribution (but this gets back to the identity question- if the reference material is no longer available, should one trust id?).
Ovophis is a terrestrial genus of crotalines from SE Asia. Mainland and mid-elevation, I think, not in the archipelagoes- look at books of Thai snakes, etc for info. I've seen them for sale a time or two (Bushmaster, in Boulder CO, the guy has Indonesia connections). I don't think Ovophis has been confused with Trimeresurus for 7 or 8 decades...
I have a trio of borneensis. I think they're great. Watch them though (or rather, yourself around them), you wouldn't believe the kill-times they pull off, esp. the females (much larger, incl. their heads!!!). Scary-hot, for mice anyway, and pretty grumpy at night. Pretty easy to get copulation (simulate monsoon season). Young a bit less easy to get (for me), but maybe you'll do better. Easy husbandry for an arboreal.
Cheers,
Jimi
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by TAIPAN78 on April 23, 2001
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Hi jimi,
Thanks for the help man!! I am picking up a 0.1 99CB
from a good freind of mine who as raised it from fish bait. She is the best feeder in the bunch but of cource, the dullest in color. Oh well, ive always been partial to the big ugly stuff:-)
Agreed about the danger side of the animal. I have been lucky enough to work with the animal I am getting, her kin and parents so Im have a pretty good idea of the animals disposition but you are on the money for saying watch out. The mother of the girl im getting is a monster and quite strike happy. Hope my girl gets that big.
Also, the reason i was asking about Ovophis is because in "The clinical handbook of toxicology" they said they are found in Borneeo and the pic looked somewhat like T.borneensis yet more bulkier(ie more terestrial).
One last thing, would you by chance be fimiliar with any case histories of T.borneensis envenomations? Do any other Trimeresurus have a similar venom composition to your knowledge?
Well jimi, thanks for takeing the time to help me out.
Take care and have fun with the trio and others.
Later man,
Jeremy
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