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by thenewdisciple on December 6, 2004
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im not making a statement about venomoids, but ive always heard that venomid snakes frequently have digestion problems. is this the case with snakes with neuro venom?
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by Snake17 on December 6, 2004
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I would say so. I don`t think there is a 100% neurotoxic snake. All snakes have digestive enzymes that help speed up digestion. Guess why cobras for example eat and crap with the speed of lightning.
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by thenewdisciple on December 6, 2004
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i know that neuro bites still have some necrotic value to them, but i would assume that a cobra does not depend on its venom to help with digestion as much as a hemotoxic viper.
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by Chance on December 6, 2004
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I believe the most closely pure neurotoxic snakes are the mambas, genus Dendroaspis. I think there are very few local symptoms from a bit from one of these snakes, just mostly physiological effects, such as respiratory and kidney failure. Many species of Naja can cause some pretty necrotic effects if they bite you, but I don't personally believe the venom of any venomous snake is absolutely essential to its survival. Afteral, snakes do not often envenomate their pre killed prey items, and if they do, the venom only affects a small area in the rodent (or whatever they are eating) since its circulatory system is no longer functioning and can't spread the venom around. To further back up my theory, I kept a rescued venomoid monocled cobra for at least a year and she fed very well and processed her food effeciently. She suffered no known ill effects from not having the assistance of her venom. While I'm sure venom does certainly help many venomous snakes digest their meals, especially highly cytotoxic viperids, it just isn't completely necessary and if removed, the snake can still process food just fine.
-Chance
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Anonymous post on December 9, 2004
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Hey there Chance, you should do your homework. Venom is not only an essential tool for survival in venomous snakes, it is what seperates them from other ophidians in the food chain. What happens in your private collection is not what happens in the wild. Although your statement about Dendrotoxins was sort-of correct, your statement about venomous snakes not always envenomating thier PREY, is totally moronic. The only cases where "dry bites" occured, were in a defensive strike, not a feeding strike.And if you have ever been bit during feeding,and recieved a dry bite in the bush, you would be able to attest to this. I belive(don't quote me) that Wuster and somebody else wrote a paper on envenomation rates in defensive and feeding strikes in the western brown snake. Check it out, i believe it was a Toxicon paper.
Not meaning to sound hostile.
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